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		<title>Meeting the challenge of Eastern Orthodoxy</title>
		<description>Discuss Meeting the challenge of Eastern Orthodoxy</description>
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			<title>Glenn Leatherman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-11</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Ryan, I agree that saying something doesn't make it true. I would love to dialog on this, but I will need to carve out some time to review this article and the context that I wrote it in 2007. I believe it originated from notes I took during a seminary lecture I attended, but need to make sure. I can agree you truthfully, although partially explain part of the gospel with your post #6 above after the first phrases of the first sentence - starting with ...the Son of Man. Let me get my head back around these issues and respond later.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Glenn Leatherman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:31:52 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Close says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-10</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If you expect anyone to take you seriously, you will need to defend your assertion by giving proof. In other words, simply saying something is true does not make it so. Your readers expect you to give reasons for what you tell them.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Close</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:15:35 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Close says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-9</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I assume that you would agree that any Church that teaches what I have outlined above is not mystical or humanistic. By any definition, that is not humanistic. It is the strongest challenge to humanism in no uncertain terms. In order for your assertion that Orthodoxy is mystical and humanistic to stand you will need to show how what I have outlined is in fact not what the Orthodox Church teaches.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Close</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:11:59 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Close says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-8</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I, on the other hand, in the course of my four (4) consecutive posts, have shown that Orthodoxy is not based on Greek Philosophy, is actually a triumph over mysticism, and is based on the foundational belief that the Son of God has become a man, has entered the material and historical world of dirt, eating, sleeping, trees, rivers, cities, dogs, whales, suffering, crying, and dying. That the Son of God has come in this way, become a human being, to unite God and man and all creation in a restored, sanctified, and all encompassing sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving. As such Christ is the only prophet, the only priest, and the only king and there is no other authority or foundation for all of life than the criterion of Jesus of Nazareth, the Way, the Truth, and the Life.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Close</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:09:48 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Close says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-7</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your response. I can appreciate your point of view. I knew from the outset that you disagreed with the teaching, mission, and life of the Orthodox Church. But you have not told us why? You claim that Orthodoxy is equivalent to Greek Philosophy and is a form of "natural theology." You say, "I still see orthodoxy as a humanistic religion that starts with man rather than with God," but you have failed to give any proof or reasons for this opinion.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Close</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:07:44 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Glenn Leatherman says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-6</link>
			<description><![CDATA[thanks for the posts. I still see orthodoxy as an humanistic religious that starts with man rather than with God. while I am sure there are some Christians that are involved with Eastern Orthodoxy, I do not consider Eastern Orthodoxy part of orthodox or genuine Christianity.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Glenn Leatherman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:26:41 --800</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Close says:</title>
			<link>http://www.disciplemaking.net/apologetics/21-meeting-the-challenge-of-eastern-orthodoxy#comment-2</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This is incorrect. Firstly, the western Christian bodies are much more influenced by Plato than the Orthodox Church because of their singular reliance on Blessed Augustine who was heavily influenced by neo-platonism. Many of his teachings, which are accepted by both Roman Catholics and Protestants are not accepted as true by the Orthodox Church.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Close</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:11:15 --800</pubDate>
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